Thursday, March 29, 2007
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I am an employee of the Isle of Capri Casino and would like to comment of the smoking ban. 1st of all the comment made
by Pam Sullivan also an employee of the Isle of Capri stated that tests show that she smokes due to working in a smoking enviroment,
she failed to mention that she was also a very heavy smoker up until maybe 18 months ago and that she should be able to work
in a safe and healthy environment, well than i suggest that maybe she should consider finding a job else where. It was her
CHOICE to work in a casino and she has since they have started gaming. So many jobs will be lost if this goes into effect
and the State will lose alot of revenue. The smaller casinos in Black Hawk and Centeral City that have managed to stay open
since the beginning might very well have to close due to this ban.Pam is a tipped employee as so am I only in a different
department and if she feels that out tips wont be effected by this ignorant ban she is wrong but then again she isnt a single
parent so I guess its not a big deal but alot of her fellow blackjack dealers are. By the way I am a smoker but even if I
was'nt I would not vote for it and thats because it all comesdown to it being my CHOICE to work at a casino and that it
is a smoking enviroment.
Thank you for your time.
1:02 pm mst
Barbara V
Why do you not have the voting records of the representatives and senators on the ban and
related legislation? They should
be receiving a deluge of letters and emails.
11:59 am mst
Mike
The argument that smoking is a right is pure stupidity. Smokers have the freedom to smoke.
There exists no right! Prior
to the implementation of the Colorado Clean Indoor Air Act of 2006,
nonsmokers had a choice concerning whether or not
to frequent smoking establishments. Now the
table has turned; smokers now have the choice on whether or not to frequent
nonsmoking
establishments. We all know that secondhand smoke is unhealthy to some degree. No thinking
person would
disagree with that. Putting that argument aside momentarily, roughly 23% of
Colorado residents smoke. This is clearly
the minority of the population. Given this statistic and
my previous analogy regarding a choice to frequent smoking/nonsmoking
establishments, one can
logically derive the folowing question: WHY IN THE WORLD SHOULD WE PUT UP WITH A HEALTH
RISK
TO APPEASE A MINORITY OF THE STATE POPULATION?! I applaud the actions of our state
legislature. These bar owners need
to pull up the! ir bootstraps and accept the new business
challenge by making their establishments attractive and as
inconvenient as possible to smokers.
11:56 am mst
Christine C
11:52 am mst
jeff r
I just wanted to tell you all That I completely support what you are doing! It does my heart good
to see someone standing
up for our rights. Keep it up!
11:48 am mst
Ron S
They're trying to get a similar ban here in wisconsin.I've written letters to my state reps.
using the OSHA
example among others. I've also asked them to prosecute the four tobacco
companies for conspiracy toraise prices
and control market share as outlined in the 1998
Master SettlementAgreement.(
http://caag.state.us/tobacco/pdf/1msa.pdf).The states and
the tobaccocompanies have stolen money from us for too long.It's time to hold them
responsable
for their crimes
11:44 am mst
Kevin
Keep up the good work!
11:40 am mst
Justin R
Thank you guys for standing up for our freedom.
11:39 am mst
Becky R
Ohio is watching what you are going through and many of us are behind you
all the
way. Don't give up. We weekly download articles about your protest and are cheering
you on!
11:35 am mst
Goffs
Mike, If bars follow the guidelines set by us, we will pay their fines.
How is civil disobedience making it worse for
bar owners? We, and
many other organizations, have challenged it in court and lost. For
your reference, any law
passed by the legislative branch can beillegal.
There is a great misunderstanding about this country; America is not
a true democracy. America is a democratic republic. There is a big
difference. In a true democracy, the majority
rules. For example, if
the majority of Americans voted to legalize murder, then it would be
legal. In a democratic
republic, the people are protected by a constitution,
a constitution that gives us unalienable rights. The Colorado
Clean Air
Indoor Act robs us of certain unalienable rights. That is how this smoking
ban is illegal.
11:27 am mst
Friday, March 16, 2007
Mike
Hey folks, this so-called "civil disobedience protest" is not
the right way to fight the Colorado Clean Air
Act of 2006 (notice I did not
refer to it as a smoking ban). You are simply making matters worse for
bar
owners. If you really want to challenge this thing, hire a good lawyer
and challenge it in the court system.
Ive read in the paper, and heard on
the news that you all refer to the act as an illegal law. My question is:
how in the world can a law passed by our state legislature be illegal?
Thats absurd!
1:58 pm mst
Tuesday, March 6, 2007
Linda J
Dear Allen,
You may be way ahead of me, but I found a message on the American Lung Assoc.
website urging people
to write in supporting these bills. Of course, I wrote my
representative and senators asking them to NOT support
these bills. Thought you
could pass this around to others if you didn't know about it.
Linda Jenkins
Champaign, IL
RE: The Kennedy-Cornyn (S.625) /Waxman-Davis (H.R.1108) legislation
I'm writing
today to urge you NOT to support legislation introduced by Senators
Edward M. Kennedy, John Cornyn and Representatives
Henry A. Waxman and Tom Davis
that would give the FDA control over tobacco products.
I believe minors should
rely on their parents, and that it is the parents
responsibility to teach the minors to make good life choices.
Passage of these
bills would constitute nannyism. We do not want nor need the government
becoming our nursemaid.
Please see original letter at
http://lungaction.org/campaign/FDA_07
3:33 am mst
Thursday, March 1, 2007
Alice S
Congratulations!!!! It's about time someone showed the courage to fight back!
In Virginia, we have a bill
just passed that will ban smoking in restaurants and bars unless a "smoking permitted" sign is posted. The
Governor has threatened to amend the bill so it becomes an outright ban.
What you courageous people in Colorado do may
help us in Virginia if we have to fight a ban.
I hope your courage is contagious and spreads to other states!
2:05 pm mst
Brian C
Although I am not a smoker, I feel that it was very unconstitutinal to tell business owners (most in paticular Bar-owners)
how to run their business. I come from Pueblo where I believe the first ban was passed, and when they passed it then, it was
bad, and even now it is still bad. I knew of a landlord who could not smoke in his own house because he used his house as
his office. That not only made the owner of properties mad, but me as well, because it is his own house, and he could not
smoke in it. Just before I moved to montrose (for schooling purposes) Montrose had plenty of places that were set up or sealed
off for ventalation purposes for smokers, which did not bother non-smokers. Now that the law has been passed, these "Smoke
fans" and "Ventalated areas" are just waste of space and money, because there is no use of them. These costed
lots of money to install. Going back to the Pueblo Issue the council passed it "...[F]or the health of the employees".
I have known many bar-owners that do not smoke, and they have not been effected by, as the health department calls it, "second
hand smoke" plus plenty of bartenders or waitresses that serve in bars tend to be smokers themselves. Colorado should
never have passed the ban, and I think it should be repealed. Another thing I forgot to mention is the fact that when Pueblo
council passed the ban, there was an attempt to recall the ban, but it did not pass, because many people did not know about
the special election (since it was given on some day that was not even close to an election day) plus many of the people that
were registered voters could not vote because they were living in the county, and only people in the city could vote, so the
bar owners that lived in the countycould not repeal their right to speak up to the council.
2:03 pm mst
Jacklyn
I work in a bar and I love the fact no one smokes no more. The
business really isn't that much less, Do people have
heaters on their front
porches to go outside and smoke? Why must we cater to them to do that? It is so
nice not
to clean ashtrays and smell that stuff then go home and my car smells
like it, my clothes, fingernails, hair, everything.
It is so stinky. Please
don't let it come back. When there was smoking I was thinking of finding another
job
as it was really getting to my lungs. I couldn't talk for days, my throat
would hurt, What about us non smokers health.
Everywhere we go someone is
blowing it in our faces. Whether we work in a bar, restaurant or whatever. What
about
US!!!
watevrmysticl@hotmail.com
1:59 pm mst
Carol H
I'd like to know if you all could point me in the right direction to
actively protest the smoking ban as a private
citizen. My rights are being
violated, I've written letters to every congressman, mayor and the governor of
Colorado and feel there's more that needs to be done. Can you help with names,
phone numbers, whatever of
a group or attorney actively protesting the smoking
ban? Is there a civil action lawsuit being pursued by individuals
that aren't
bar owners, etc.?
1:50 pm mst
Linda J
1:45 pm mst
Aunty Lynn
Great idea!
But GET A CLUE!!!
14th Amendment arguments against smoking bans have LOST in other States.
Businessmen here in New Jersey sued the State in District Court over 'equal
protection' because the Casinos
of Atlantic City had an exemption to the ban.
(Small wonder. The State Legislature's retirement fund is heavily invested
in AC
stocks!)
Nevada small businessmen also VERY recently lost on 'unequal' enforcement
charges, in
a similar scenario.
HERE is an IDEA that Has NOT Been TESTED!
To whit: The Constitutionally Guaranteed
Right to
Freedom of Assembly!
These Bans are VERY much like the old "Jim Crow" Laws of the South.
Which laws
are now illegal - as you WELL know!
Since court after court in New York, New Jersey, Massachusetts
etc. has DENIED
business plaintiffs on the 'equal protection' argument* - why not try AN
ARGUMENT
that might WORK!
* Judges said that States have the right to make "health" laws.
To the best of
my knowledge, no one YET has challenged a Ban with the
'Abridgement of Free Assembly' argument.
Obviously,
if your patrons' rights to "Assembly" are abridged, your businesses
will suffer! (As they have elsewhere.)
Moreover: There's a little law known as "The Americans with Disabilities Act"
which guarantees
equal public access to all Americans. Since smokers are
'debilitated' by their habit and WILL NOT patronize
places where they cannot
indulge in their LEGAL addiction (Especially if alcohol is involved) the
requirement that
they cannot smoke in 'public places' effectively abridges
ACCESS to these places. (Counter to the Americans with
Disabilities Act.)
You may laugh at this proposal, but an Arbitrator in a B.C. Canada in hearing a
Union Case against
BC's "smoke free workplace" Ban in 2000 (involving an
American Steel Company, and its Union) thought this
argument had MERIT. BC
wound up rolling back their ban to allow for separate, ventilated, 'designated
smoking
rooms' - with the requirement that no worker is allowed to spend more
than 20% of their shift in those rooms.
Why don't you run THESE arguments by your legal counsel? At the very least, you
could ADD them to your
Complaint! (And 'back your bet' with more than one
charge.)
I would be interested to hear your thoughts
on these suggestions - but I would
be even MORE interested to hear what a Judge might think! :)
Yours in Solidarity!
"Aunty" Lynn
New Jersey
Member: Smokers Club Inc.
1:37 pm mst
Steven G
I'm not sure if my e-mail address was added to the mailing list, but I would
like to receive updates on CER meetings
and news. I am the Point of Contact on
this issue for the Libertarian Party of Colorado. The LP is the only party in
the state that opposes the smoking ban as part of its fundamental principles.
For the LP, this is not a matter of health
or profits, but one of property
rights and the free market. Business owners should be free to determine how they
run
their businesses, as customers should be free to choose which businesses
they wish to patronize.
1:22 pm mst